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in 2023, I wrote that xunzi sees morality as "as a tool crafted by man to create human flourishing." my knowledge of the text has deepened since and I think this is flagrantly wrong enough to require correction. I changed the line to "specific to man, grounded ultimately in that which creates human flourishing." this is clear from his essay "enriching the state": human nature alongside human biological and emotional needs are fixed and innate, and what is Good is that which satisfies and regulates them

in "discourse on heaven" xunzi says "Those who cross waters mark out the deep places, but if the markers are not clear, people will fall in. Those who order the people mark out the Way, but if the markers are not clear, there will be chaos. The rituals are those markers" (17.239). the markers are not an artificially constructed morality, but best practices arrived at through experience which align with the human condition. I still believe that ritual is relative to culture: some form of respect and awe for the cosmos may be necessary, for instance, but the specific jiao sacrifice is not. it's also likely not all times and cultures have all the same markers: different paths through the river may avoid some of the deep places that others are perilously close to. but xunzi is not a relativist and any flexibility on implementation details sits one level of abstraction above a universal condition which is analogous to natural law

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Thank you for your writing! Always very interesting and enjoyable

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